Notes from America with Kai Wright

We Don't Talk About Leonard: Episode 1

10.05.2023 - By WNYC StudiosPlay

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Our friends at On the Media have teamed up with ProPublica to create a miniseries about how the U.S. Supreme Court moved so far to the right.

In this first episode of We Don't Talk About Leonard, ProPublica reporters Andrea Bernstein, Andy Kroll, and Ilya Marritz investigate the background of the man who has played a critical role in the conservative takeover of America's courts — Leonard Leo. From his humble roots in middle class New Jersey, to a mansion in Maine where last year he hosted a fabulous party on the eve of the Supreme Court decision to tank “Roe.”

You can listen to more episodes from We Don’t Talk About Leonard by visiting On The Media’s podcast, or by visiting this link.

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