In this episode of Resurface, we start the way we refuse to stop starting, with laughter, marriage banter, and another round of Agree or Disagree. We debate whether the higher earner should get more say over money, why “we need to talk” texts are morally wrong unless immediately explained, whether one parent should override the other’s discipline, and whether all men should know how to cook.Then the episode turns to the heart of it: an update on Mila’s CAP/C waiver hearing against NC DHHS. Rachel walks Stephen through key moments from the hearing, including medical testimony about Mila’s birth injury, her prolonged seizure with status epilepticus, her hearing loss, the state’s attempt to frame her needs as behavioral or developmental rather than medical, and the judge’s decision to dismiss the case before the state ever put on its own witnesses. Stephen reacts in real time as Rachel reads portions of the testimony, the judge's comments, and the state attorney's remarks. And, we both explain why we will keep going.This one moves from funny to furious to determined, because that is basically the Resurface brand: real life, very few polished edges, and the refusal to stop laughing even when the serious parts are very serious.

If you are parenting through stress, disability, medical uncertainty, or just trying to hold your family together while life keeps coming at you, this episode is for you.

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Resurface is the only podcast where two medical trauma survivors, each of us carrying invisible after effects, parent a medically complex child and special needs child together, disagree about many things, almost fall apart, and still choose to love each other through the storm. And try to make you laugh while we do it. We are not a recovery story. We are a survival story. The wave hasn't passed. We're still in it.