Warren Mundine grew up in a poor Aboriginal family in the 1950’s and rose to become the National President of the Australian Labor Party, an advisor to five Prime Ministers, a successful businessman and a tireless advocate for indigenous Australians.

In this conversation with host Will Kingston, he discusses why he is opposing the Voice, and outlines some practical things we can do instead to improve the lives of Indigenous Australians.

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Note: We had some minor issues with sound quality on Warren's side. Stick with it. It's worth it.