In this episode of the We Need to Act podcast, we welcome John Pabon, greenwashing expert, author of The Great Greenwashing, consultant, and speaker.

John unpacks how greenwashing evolved from fossil fuel misinformation into a sophisticated global system of climate deception involving corporations, governments, NGOs, and even billionaires. We discuss the difference between accidental and deliberate greenwashing, why responsibility has been shifted onto individuals, and why the real climate debate is “up vs. down” — not left vs. right.

We also explore AI as a new amplifier of misinformation, the current state of greenwashing regulation, and how companies can communicate sustainability honestly without resorting to greenhushing.

Episode Highlights

• John Pabon on his journey from the United Nations to exposing greenwashing

• The difference between accidental greenwashing and deliberate corporate deception

• How fossil fuel companies pioneered climate misinformation

• Why consumers are smarter — but still up against billion-dollar influence machines

• The shifting of climate responsibility onto individuals through recycling and carbon footprints

• Ultra-wealthy emissions, private jets, and the “up vs. down” climate debate

• The current state of greenwashing regulation in the EU, Australia, and the U.S.

• The rise of AI as a potential amplifier of climate misinformation

• Why companies must embrace transparency instead of greenhushing

• A reminder that you don’t have to be a perfect environmentalist — just an honest and engaged one

  
  

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En este episodio conversamos con Diego Isabel La Moneda, cofundador y director de la Fundación Foro NESI, sobre la urgencia de transformar el modelo económico para que vuelva a estar al servicio de las personas y del planeta.

Desde una vocación temprana marcada por la idea de dejar el mundo mejor de como lo encontramos, Diego reflexiona sobre los límites del sistema actual, el falso dilema entre crecimiento y decrecimiento, y la necesidad de repensar cómo producimos, consumimos y vivimos. Hablamos de economía de proximidad, comunidad, salud mental, polarización política y del valor de pensar con libertad en un mundo cada vez más fragmentado.

También exploramos el papel clave de los territorios, la conexión entre lo local y lo global, y la importancia de dar voz a las nuevas generaciones para construir futuros más justos y sostenibles. Una conversación profunda y esperanzadora sobre cómo dirigir el cambio hacia modelos económicos más humanos, regenerativos y colaborativos.

Porque el cambio es inevitable. La pregunta es hacia dónde decidimos dirigirlo.

Puntos clave del episodio:

• La idea de dejar el mundo mejor de como lo encontramos como motor vital y profesional.

• Por qué muchas de las crisis actuales tienen su origen en un modelo económico agotado.

• El falso dilema entre crecimiento y decrecimiento: cómo, dónde y para qué crecer.

• La “obesidad económica”: más consumo y producción, pero menos bienestar y relaciones.

• La importancia de la economía de proximidad y la comunidad frente a la soledad urbana.

• Datos que conectan grandes ciudades, salud mental y pérdida de vínculos sociales.

• La pérdida de libertad de pensamiento en un mundo cada vez más polarizado.

• Local y global no son opuestos: hacia una globalización de la localización.

• El papel clave de jóvenes, educación y liderazgo en la transformación social.

• El trabajo de Foro NESI y la construcción de consensos como base del cambio sistémico.

• Un mensaje final: amar, cuidar y enriquecer el alma como base de una nueva economía.

  
  

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In this episode of the We Need to Act podcast, we are honored to welcome Sara Olsvig, Chair of the Inuit Circumpolar Council (ICC), representing around 180,000 Inuit across Alaska, Canada, Greenland, and Russia.

Sara shares her experience leading the global Inuit voice in international forums such as the United Nations, the Arctic Council, and the International Maritime Organization. She explains why Inuit and Indigenous peoples must be at the center of decisions about the Arctic, climate change, biodiversity, and resource governance — guided by the principle “nothing about us without us.”

The conversation explores the Inuit relationship with nature, climate change impacts in the Arctic, environmental protection versus resource extraction, and the human rights dimensions of pollution and biodiversity loss. Sara also addresses current geopolitical tensions surrounding Greenland, the legacy of colonization, self-determination, and why there is “no such thing as a better colonizer.”

Finally, she reflects on resilience, hope, and the importance of multilateral cooperation, Indigenous knowledge, and respect for Arctic peoples in shaping a just and sustainable future.

🎧 A powerful and eye-opening conversation on climate justice, Indigenous rights, and the future of the Arctic.

Episode Highlights

• Sara Olsvig, Chair of the Inuit Circumpolar Council, on representing Inuit across Alaska, Canada, Greenland, and Russia

• The Arctic as a lived environment, not an empty ice desert

• Why Inuit and Indigenous peoples must be part of all decisions affecting their lands and waters

• The Arctic warming three to four times faster than the global average

• Climate change and pollution as human rights issues

• Tensions between environmental protection, resource extraction, and Indigenous livelihoods

• Greenland, self-determination, and resistance to renewed colonial narratives

• The role of international cooperation and multilateral institutions

• Inuit resilience, adaptation, and hope for the future

  
  

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In this episode of We Need to Act, host Sara Rego sits down with Michael Kotutwa Johnson, a 250th-generation Hopi farmer and Assistant Professor at the University of Arizona, to explore how Indigenous knowledge can help address today’s climate and food crises.

Michael explains why industrial agriculture—not climate change alone—is driving soil degradation, biodiversity loss, and water scarcity worldwide. Drawing from thousands of years of Hopi farming traditions, he shares how ancestral seeds, place-based agriculture, and reciprocal relationships with the land create resilience in even the harshest environments.

The conversation also explores food sovereignty, the health impacts of losing traditional diets, the role of women in matrilineal food systems, and the Hopi Prophecy Rock—offering a powerful reflection on the choice humanity still has between excess and balance.

This episode is a call to rethink how we grow food, care for the land, and shape our collective future.

Episode Highlights

• Indigenous agricultural knowledge offers real solutions to today’s climate and food crises
• Why industrial agriculture — not climate change alone — is accelerating soil and ecosystem collapse
• How Hopi ancestral seeds have adapted over generations to thrive in arid environments
• The role of small, place-based farms in feeding the majority of the world’s population
• The connection between the loss of traditional diets and rising health crises in Indigenous communities
• What food sovereignty really means — and why it matters now
• How matrilineal systems create balance in agriculture and community life
• The Hopi Prophecy Rock and the choice humanity still has between excess and sustainability
• Why faith, hope, and planting anyway are acts of resistance and resilience

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In this enlightening conversation, Professor Jansen discusses his journey from aspiring biochemist to a dedicated educator, emphasizing the importance of teaching as a vocation. He reflects on the impact of colonialism on education and the urgent need for climate change education. The discussion also covers climate justice, the role of AI in education, and the importance of empowering communities through knowledge. Jansen encourages listeners to take local action to create meaningful change in the world.

Professor Jonathan Jansen is a distinguished professor of education at Stellenbosch University and a former president of the Academy of Science of South Africa. Educated at the University of the Western Cape, Unisa, Cornell University, and Stanford University, he is an internationally recognized scholar and leader in education. A prolific author of over 30 books, including Leading for Change and The Decolonization of Knowledge, Professor Jansen has made seminal contributions to education research, leadership, and public engagement over four decades. His work on race, leadership, and human rights has earned him major international honors, including induction into the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and multiple lifetime achievement awards.

Takeaways

• Education is a privilege and a calling.
• Teaching should inspire joy and connection.
• Climate change education is essential across all subjects.
• Local actions can lead to global impacts.
• Empower communities through education and knowledge sharing.
• Colonialism still affects education systems today.
• Climate justice requires global responsibility and action.
• AI can enhance education if used wisely.
• Knowledge production is a collaborative effort.
• We must not be overwhelmed by the challenges we face.

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As we close out 2025 and step into 2026, this episode is a moment to pause, reflect, and look ahead.

In this special year-end wrap-up of We Need to Act, host Sara reflects on the conversations, voices, and lessons that shaped our understanding of sustainability in 2025 — and why sustainability must be reframed if we are serious about creating just, regenerative futures.

From Indigenous wisdom and ancestral knowledge to climate justice, regenerative systems, biodiversity, rewilding, and collective responsibility, this episode explores why incremental change is no longer enough. Sustainability is not a trend or a buzzword — it is about people, justice, ecosystems, and action.

This episode asks:

• What did 2025 teach us about sustainability and systems change?

• Why hope is not something we wait for, but something we build through action

• What 2026 demands of us: community-led solutions, restoration, rewilding, and technology in service of life

• How individual choices, local action, and collective responsibility create real impact

Featuring reflections inspired by conversations with Indigenous leaders, activists, educators, system thinkers, and culture keepers, this episode is an invitation to listen deeply, challenge assumptions, and choose courage over comfort.

Because we don’t just need to talk about change.
Together, we need to act.

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Este episodio es una conversación íntima con la poeta mapuche María Isabel Lara Millapán sobre memoria, lengua y territorio en tiempos de desconexión acelerada. Hablamos de cómo el mundo se ha vuelto más rápido y orientado al “hacer” más que al “ser”, y de lo que perdemos cuando nos alejamos de la naturaleza y de nuestras raíces.

María Isabel comparte cómo su poesía nace de la infancia, del duelo y de la espiritualidad, y cómo también se ha convertido en una voz de denuncia frente a las heridas de la colonización y las amenazas actuales que viven las comunidades mapuche. Exploramos el poder del mapuzungun como “la lengua de la tierra”, la importancia de las lenguas ancestrales para sostener una cosmovisión y el rol de las nuevas generaciones y la tecnología en los procesos de revitalización cultural.

María Isabel Lara Millapán es poeta mapuche, hablante nativa de mapuzungun, nacida en el lof de Chihuimpilli (comuna de Freire, Región de La Araucanía, Chile), y Doctora en Didáctica de la Lengua y la Literatura por la Universidad Autónoma de Barcelona. Actualmente es académica del Campus Villarrica de la Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile e investigadora asociada del Centro de Estudios Interculturales e Indígenas (CIIR). Es además autora de una obra poética que entrelaza espiritualidad, territorio y resistencia.

Un episodio para quienes sienten la urgencia de frenar, escuchar a los pueblos originarios y recordar que la naturaleza, la memoria y el diálogo son claves para construir un futuro más justo y humano.

Capítulos:

Introducción y desconexión

• Comienza en 0:00

El camino de María Isabel hacia la poesía

• Comienza en 3:00

La importancia del mapuzungun

• Comienza en 6:00

Conexiones culturales y espirituales

• Comienza en 9:00

Desafíos y luchas contemporáneas

• Comienza en 12:00

Revitalización y nuevas generaciones

• Comienza en 15:00

Sabe más sobre el trabajo de María Isabel Lara Millapan en https://www.escritoresindigenas.cl/lara-millapan

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In this episode of We Need to Act, host Sara Rego speaks with Helena Norberg-Hodge—one of the world’s most influential voices on localization and the new economy movement.

Helena Norberg-Hodge, linguist, author, filmmaker, and pioneer of the global localization movement, is the founder and director of Local Futures and the convenor of World Localization Day and the Planet Local Summit. She is the author of the classic Ancient Futures and Local Is Our Future, and producer of the award-winning documentaries The Economics of Happiness, Planet Local, and Closer to Home. She also founded the International Alliance for Localization and co-founded both the International Forum on Globalization and the Global Ecovillage Network. Her work has been recognized with the Alternative Nobel Prize, the Arthur Morgan Award, and the Goi Peace Prize for her contributions to cultural and biological diversity and the strengthening of local communities worldwide.

Together, Sara and Helena explore how globalization undermines well-being, why local economies create happier and healthier societies, and what we can do to restore community, meaning, and democratic power. They discuss the importance of feminine values in healing our fractured world, the dangers of centralized technological systems, and the joy that comes from rebuilding relationships—with each other and with nature.

A hopeful, human-centered conversation about reclaiming our future through localization and the economics of happiness.

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En este episodio, nos asociamos con Cool Earth, una organización cuya misión es proporcionar dinero y datos directamente a las personas que viven en la selva tropical para que puedan hacer lo que mejor saben hacer: protegerla. También hablamos con Equal Right, la organización socia de Cool Earth en el proyecto Income for Peace with Nature en Colombia.

Nuestros invitados, Isabel Felandro, Directora de Programas en Cool Earth, y Carlos Adrián Pérez, Director para América Latina en Equal Right, discuten el potencial transformador de la renta básica para las comunidades indígenas en el Amazonas, particularmente en Colombia y Perú. Exploran cómo el apoyo financiero puede empoderar a estas comunidades para proteger su entorno mientras se abordan las desigualdades sociales.

La conversación destaca la importancia de la colaboración, la confianza y la educación en la implementación de estas iniciativas, así como los desafíos de navegar en contextos políticos y culturales complejos. También reflexiona sobre los resultados de la COP16 y la defensa continua de la financiación climática dirigida a los pueblos indígenas.

Puntos clave

• El problema no es el dinero en sí, sino su redistribución.

• La renta básica puede ayudar a reducir la dependencia de las industrias extractivas.

• Las alianzas con organizaciones indígenas son cruciales para el éxito.

• El monitoreo es esencial para garantizar un impacto positivo en la comunidad.

• La renta básica puede mejorar el bienestar y la felicidad de las comunidades.

• La educación es clave para fomentar la conciencia social y la responsabilidad.

• La renta básica debe verse como un derecho, no como un subsidio.

• La defensa de la financiación climática debe priorizar a las comunidades indígenas.

• La interconexión de las comunidades es vital para el progreso.

• La COP16 proporcionó una plataforma para la colaboración y futuras iniciativas.

  
  

Capítulos

00:00 Transformando el dinero para la justicia ambiental
03:02 Lecciones desde Perú: ampliando la renta básica a Colombia
05:55 Construyendo confianza y colaboración con comunidades indígenas
08:28 Renta básica: una herramienta para el impacto ambiental y social
10:52 Desafíos y oportunidades en la implementación de la renta básica
12:55 Monitoreo del impacto y asegurando el bienestar comunitario
15:53 El papel de la educación en la formación de la conciencia
18:05 Navegando desafíos políticos y culturales
19:40 Defensa de la financiación climática y derechos indígenas
21:57 Reflexiones sobre la COP16 y direcciones futuras

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In this episode, we partner with Cool Earth, an organization whose mission is to provide cash and data directly to people living in the rainforest so they can do what they do best — protect it. We also speak with Equal Right, Cool Earth’s partner organization in the Income for Peace with Nature project in Colombia.

Our guests, Isabel Felandro, Head of Programmes at Cool Earth, and Carlos Adrián Pérez, Director for Latin America at Equal Right, discuss the transformative potential of basic income for Indigenous communities in the Amazon, particularly in Colombia and Peru. They explore how financial support can empower these communities to safeguard their environment while addressing social inequalities.

The conversation highlights the importance of collaboration, trust, and education in implementing such initiatives, as well as the challenges of navigating complex political and cultural landscapes. It also reflects on the outcomes of COP16 and the ongoing advocacy for climate finance directed towards Indigenous peoples.

Takeaways

• Money itself is not the problem; it's the redistribution.

• Basic income can help reduce dependency on extractive industries.

• Partnerships with indigenous organizations are crucial for success.

• Monitoring is essential to ensure positive community impact.

• Basic income can improve well-being and happiness in communities.

• Education is key to fostering social consciousness and responsibility.

• Basic income should be viewed as a right, not a subsidy.

• Advocacy for climate finance must prioritize indigenous communities.

• The interconnectedness of communities is vital for progress.

• COP16 provided a platform for collaboration and future initiatives.

Chapters

00:00 Transforming Money for Environmental Justice

03:02 Lessons from Peru: Expanding Basic Income to Colombia

05:55 Building Trust and Collaboration with Indigenous Communities

08:28 Basic Income: A Tool for Environmental and Social Impact

10:52 Challenges and Opportunities in Implementing Basic Income

12:55 Monitoring Impact and Ensuring Community Well-being

15:53 The Role of Education in Shaping Consciousness

18:05 Navigating Political and Cultural Challenges

19:40 Advocacy for Climate Finance and Indigenous Rights

21:57 Reflections on COP16 and Future Directions

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