ep 44: Whiteness is a dangerous idea - Robert P. Baird is a freelance writer and editor, who has held editorial positions at The New Yorker, The Paris Review, Esquire, and Harper’s Magazine, and has a Ph.D. from the University of Chicago. His recent Guardian Long Read titled: “The invention of whiteness: the long history of a dangerous idea” delves into the history and more recent understandings of whiteness and how the term's growing usage hasn't always yielded the results many white liberals had hoped. He joins me to talk whiteness as religion, how whiteness has evolved, and whether there is such a thing as 'detoxified' white identity.