Bahle Nhlapho hosts Pastor Charlotte van Staden (Msibi) on Real Swing, unpacking "We Rise Again" from John 5's Pool of Bethesda story. Senior pastor at Faith Life Ministries (Carltonville & Katlehong branches), Soweto-born author, wife, mother now in Brakpan, she inspires resilience. They explore the paralyzed man's 38-year wait and Jesus' command to rise, take his mat, and walk. Pastor Charlotte emphasizes rising above prolonged setbacks through faith, obedience, and divine power. Listeners receive hope to break stagnation, embrace healing, and rise into God's purpose. Jula Ezwini