Do all addicts in recovery become nerds? Or were we, in our using days, simply suppressing our supernatural curiosity and next-level research skills?

Suzanne and Sarah sit down with their guest, Irish, to explore these questions and more. Tune in to hear Irish casually drop one life-changing metaphor after another — and to discover what might actually be hiding beneath the surface of addiction and recovery.

The Fourth D Club, Missoula, MT, www.4thdmissoula.org

Hosted & Written by Suzanne Garcia Pino

Co-Hosted & Produced by Sarah Grobel Bolstad

Music: I'll Tell You by Sarah Grobel Bolstad & Ian Ford