Hey Y'all!

Listen in as my daughter interviews me and my wife about our recent publication.

I have so much more to say about why we did this and the connections to what I believe the future of church work looks like.

But this is a good start for now. Plus it was fun for me, Heather, and the kids. Maybe they have a future in podcasting! :)

Nobody's Nola is out on Amazon now and available in select locations.