Award-winning book designer Jordan Wannemacher joins Mike and Mary Jane to spark one IRL after years of a successful online friendship! She gets granular about why fine art is like masturbation while design is like sex, great weed packaging, favorite fonts, Magic Eye posters, childhood cooking lessons, chicken-fried steak, and burrata as a money shot. Plus, Mike and MJ talk Muppets, and ponder: is Kermit the Frog Jewish?

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• Music by Jesse Case