Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfZm0tPUxjE
Site: https://codingcat.dev/podcast/1-15-whats-up-with-svelte

Details

Shawn or perhaps more popularly known as, Swyx, is a frequent writer and speaker best known for the Learn in Public movement and recently published The Coding Career Handbook with more advice for engineers going from Junior to Senior. He has worked for Netlify and AWS and is also the co-host of the Svelte Radio podcast.

Questions

1. Where are you living these days?
2. What is Svelte and how is it different from other frontend "frameworks"?
3. The website Svelte.dev explains a lot about why I love Svelte. It says, write less code in languages you already know, compiles the framework away to a tiny vanilla JS bundle, and easy out of the box reactive state management. All of this sounds fantastic, so why are companies still choosing the other big 3 frameworks. Is there anything Svelte missing?
4. a. https://www.swyx.io/svelte-sites-react-apps/
5. I saw you have a course on egghead on Design Systems with React and Typescript in Storybook. Do you think Svelte would be a good choice when building a design system since it is so close to base HTML?
6. Built in animations and actions out of the box are 2 things that really make Svelte stand out for me. Can you explain more about what actions are and how you use them in Svelte?
7. a. https://github.com/sw-yx/svelte-actions
8. The Svelte docs are really nice, but when it comes to video tutorials there isn't much out there. Where would you tell people to go that wanted to get started learning Svelte and would you ever think about creating a course for Svelte?
9. We've all heard the rumors that SvelteKit is coming soon and I know you don't work on that specifically. But, with this new solution coming out that will supposedly handle static site generation and server side rendering, do you know if Sapper is going away or what is happening there?

Additional Links Mentioned

• https://sveltesociety.dev/
• https://github.com/sw-yx/svelte-actions
• https://svelte.dev/
• https://svelte.dev/examples#actions
• https://www.svelteradio.com/
• https://egghead.io/courses/getting-started-with-svelte-3-05a8541a
• https://frontendmasters.com/courses/svelte/
• https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZSr5B0l07JXK2FIeWA0-jw
• https://sveltesummit.com/
• https://podrocket.logrocket.com/swyx
• https://svelte.dev/blog/whats-the-deal-with-sveltekit

Purrfect Picks

These are fun picks of the week. Maybe something you bought online, a great show you are currently watching, or that last book that you thought was amazing.

Shawn Wang

• Threejs Journey

Brittney Postma

• https://www.swyx.io/svelte-sites-react-apps/
• Draggable Kanban App with Svelte - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcaYol_XFk4&t=1529s

Alex Patterson

• https://undraw.co/
• https://github.com/sw-yx/spark-joy/blob/master/README.md#illustrations

Transcript

Alex Patterson: [00:00:00] Welcome back. Perfect peeps to perfect ad dev today on the show we have Shawn Wang also known as Swyx. Hey Shawn, how's it going? 

swyx: [00:00:11] Hey, thanks for having me. Yeah, happy to be here.

Alex Patterson: [00:00:15] Thanks. Thanks for coming on. A little bit about Shawn, or perhaps popular known as Swyx is a frequent writer and speaker best known for the learning public movement. And recently published the coding career handbook with more advice for engineers going from junior to senior, he has worked for Netlify AWS and is also the co-host of felt radio podcasts. That was quite a bit of stuff.

swyx: [00:00:39] Yeah. Is that too long of a bio? I've been thinking about cutting it down?

Alex Patterson: [00:00:42] I don't think so. I think it's perfect. 

Honestly, I really like busy. 

Brittney Postma: [00:00:47] That's really cool. We like 

swyx: [00:00:48] all the content. Okay. Making up for lost time. I was a career changer, so from 2011 to 2017, I was finance. And now I'm trying to make up for it.

Alex Patterson: [00:00:59] I think you're doing a great job. You've probably leaped over a lot of us. So I probably varied deleted as I always tend to do, because I'm just so excited about the guests. Usually not as much, well equally as the sidle and subjects. So, today we're talking about what's up with felt. And possibly some things there.

Brittany will probably lead a lot of this conversation today. Folks, you probably hear too much from me, but Brittany loves fell. And so, I'm going to let her take charge on this one quite a bit. The only things that I want to know before we dive in is felt where are you these days? Are you at home or where are you? 

swyx: [00:01:32] Not for those watching on video. This is clearly not daylight.  It is 3:00 AM my time in Singapore. And basically this is where I was born and raised and where my family lives. Normally I live in New York but. You know exactly a year ago, I fled New York because I wasn't sure if the healthcare system could take me if I got COVID.

So I came back to the only place I knew, which is here. And I've been here. It was supposed to be like, I actually packed for like two months and I left all my stuff in my apartment and I was like, it's a short trip. It's fine. And now I'm still here. Repeatedly. It's 

Brittney Postma: [00:02:06] crazy. That's exactly how we all felt like it's going to be over in a couple months.

Like, let's just do this for now and then no, we're still here a year later that you got to go back to the family. 

swyx: [00:02:19] I've lived through this I've lived through SARS which actually shut down schools here in Asia for a while. And I think Americans don't know how it is. So maybe, I do think that you ha you don't take it as seriously if you haven't been exposed to it.

But like everyone everyone of us in Asia knew exactly what to do. And we just did, follow the playbook. But it was over in two, three months. It wasn't like, We were scared. I was scared for ...