This science and storytelling podcast looks at two very different human experiences, as told by the people who lived them. Using social science, we find threads that tie the opposing stories together, and uncover bigger questions about the ways we behave.

Journalist Paris Lees hosts the podcast with warmth and intimacy, encouraging the guests to share their stories while also being open with her own history and anecdotes. Immersive sound design brings us deeper into the stories and the science, which we weave together to reflect on why we are the way we are.