Welcome to Mess Makes Meaning with Joy and Raenelle. Brought to you by the Godly Play Foundation, we are here as fellow parents who understand we all want to nurture our children's spirituality, but life is messy and some times finding the meaning in that mess is hard. We will talk with guests each episode who have insight into ways we can care for our children while caring for ourselves as we make meaning together through narrative, wonder, rhythm and play.