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Welcome! Zoom and Collaboration Tools plus more on Tech Talk with Craig Peterson on WGAN
Welcome!
Craig discusses Zoom and the security drawbacks it poses to businesses.
For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com
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[00:00:00] We've talked about, Go To Meeting, Microsoft Teams. We've mentioned the WebEx teams. We've mentioned Zoom. Now we're going to start delving into that even more. We're going to be talking right now about Zoom, the pros, and cons. It's probably the one you've been using.
How do I know it's probably the one you've been using because that's kind of been the default. Zoom has a lot of advantages and some serious disadvantages as well. So we'll talk a little bit about those, but the number one problem that we've had with Zoom over, frankly, the years has been security and lies.
Did you know that Zoom has misrepresented so many times about their ability to encrypt what they're doing and where they're routing? It is been,
[00:01:00] it's just been crazy what these guys have been up to. It is not end-to-end encrypted. Let's just start with that, which means that anybody who is potentially in the middle which is by the way, Zoom itself. Is somebody who can listen in on the conversation. Now, remember what I said about Zoom and their developers, many of them. At least I think it might be most of them, they're in China. We had a big story that I don't think I ever really talked about on the radio here, but it had to do with China and Zoom routing people's phone calls to China. Which was absolutely a huge thing, then Zoom had excuses for it. Well, you know, we have data centers all over the world. We try and run them back and forth. Oh, okay. Yeah, exactly. I absolutely get it. There are articles online, have a look at the intercept, for instance,
[00:02:00] they are generating their encryption keys in China for Zoom.
That's absolutely incredible. Zoom has also just in the last week or so been exposed. They have been cutting off some of the Zoom user's meetings because China objected. China didn't want some of these people who were talking about China and some of the bad things China has been doing. In reality, we haven't been talking about these anywhere near enough here in the United States, but Zoom has capitulated to the Chinese government, the socialists over there.
It's absolutely amazing what has it been going on? They're using some old versions of encryption that have been easily hacked. They've got the worst type of AES keys out there. The researchers have confirmed that they're
[00:03:00] using 128-bit keys for their communications.
In other words, even the encryption that they have, which is extremely limited, is extremely poor. It's just amazing. They keep saying, Oh, you know, we're fixing it. Or we have fixed it. They keep getting caught in what the media has been calling lies again and again. These encryption keys in China and routing the data through China and capitulating to what China wants them to do.
I don't know about you, but to me, that's a very, very big concern, right. These guys just have not been upfront and honest with people. It's a terrible situation. So Zoom is something I absolutely would never. Use for anything that really mattered. So if you're talking about some business process that might be confidential, if you're talking about some intellectual property things,
[00:04:00] right which is confidential business information. If you're talking about banking information if you're talking to your accountant if you're talking about anything. That could be used by hackers or the Nation States.
Anybody malicious doesn't use Zoom. Now I get it. I understand why people used it. I have used zoom and I'm probably still going to continue to use zoom for certain things.
The big advantages to zoom are Number one it's easy to use and set up and manage. It is quite straightforward. Now. Unfortunately, unlike WebEx teams, you do have to install a client. You have to install software on your computer. Guess what? That's another area. Zoom has been caught doing some things that are very, very poor practices from a programming standpoint and the nefarious if you want to look at this through a slightly different lens when it comes to Mac computers, they were installing a whole server
[00:05:00] on your computer that allowed remote access to pretty much everything on your computer. Can you believe these guys? OK, it's really crazy, but you know, zoom, you don't need IT team to manage it.
You don't need to have somebody like me come in and get everything set up, help explain it to you. Cause there are not very many functions in it. There are not very many features. It's not like a WebEx team, the room, and spaces that can all be tied into other devices and get set up on your mobile devices.
Maybe like I have sitting right here, I have this amazing WebEx teams displayed. It's just absolutely amazing. We were using it yesterday for a meeting and it has a built-in whiteboard and I'm just drawing on this screen. It's it is really quite impressive, but. You don't need any of that with Zoom.
And that's why so many people went on and used it. And frankly, they've more than doubled in size over the last six months or so.
[00:06:00] It's been huge. So with Zoom, you can get up to a hundred participants standard on your Zoom account. You can have a quick one on one meeting, which is handy. You have your own Zoom room.
In fact, the Zoom rooms have been where most of the Zoom bombing has been going on, where people drop in and stick pornography in the middle of your meeting. It's been happening for schools. It's been happening for everybody. Who's been using them by the way. If you're a school, don't use Zoom, get something good.
Get again, WebEx teams, Hey, listen, we sell it. We use it. We do that because we love it. Believe me. It's just phenomenal.
You can have your meetings on Zoom phone webinars, chats on Zoom, which is really kind of handy. They do also have the ability to with browsers attend some of the meetings. They have conference rooms and mobile devices.
I really like conference rooms. That's what I used to
[00:07:00] run the FBI's InfraGard webinars for a couple of years. It works pretty darn well for that sort of stuff. Zoom also has some of these all in one in appliances, which makes it even simpler to deploy, manage, and scale the room experience.
But again, Those all in one appliance have been found to be anything but secure. It's just crazy. These guys, they just don't get it. They either don't know anything about security or they just don't care about it. Right.
So these all in one appliance has it been shown from Zoom to be very, very insecure and it's very cheap.
It's inexpensive to do it. It does have some integrations with Google and Microsoft. You can use their app marketplaces over 200 integrations with things like Slack and PayPal and many others. In fact, that's what we did with the FBI InfraGard program. We had some that were paid, some of these
[00:08:00] meetings that were paid and that went over like a lead balloon.
Let me tell you. that was kind of one of the final straws when I left doing that for the FBI InfraGard program, because so much of this information, I'm trying to get it outright. Why should people have to pay for some of these webinars where the presenters are, volunteers, me running the webinars for the FBI InfraGard program, our volunteers, and then they start charging people and then there, they, in a couple of cases, they actually paid behind the scenes, the people who were doing the presentations. But for the most part, they weren't getting paid. Anyway, so I don't know, maybe that's a little inside baseball. Okay.
Now, why am I still going to use Zoom? In some cases, Zoom is just what everybody knows.
It's what everybody uses. It just makes life so easy. I think I would probably continue to use it for some people. Some people have a hard time with anything new, but
[00:09:00] you know what, now that the majority of people know how to use Zoom, because they've had to, because of working from home. With the coronavirus thing, the Zoom is going to be a platform that's going to be around for quite a while.
And yeah, it's got its drawbacks as I just talked about, but the fact that it's kind of ubiquitous, everybody knows that everybody can use it. Everybody has used it. It is not going away anytime soon. So stick around if you missed any of today's show, make sure you go to Craig peterson.com. You'll find it all there as well as on your favorite podcast app and stick around.
Cause we're going to talk about my favorite collaboration system when we get back. So, stick around.
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Welcome!
Craig discusses Zoom and the security drawbacks it poses to businesses.
For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com
---
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Apple's Silicon Macs promise screaming performance
TikTok and 32 other iOS apps still snoop your sensitive clipboard data
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Automated Machine-Generated Transcript:
[00:00:00] We've talked about, Go To Meeting, Microsoft Teams. We've mentioned the WebEx teams. We've mentioned Zoom. Now we're going to start delving into that even more. We're going to be talking right now about Zoom, the pros, and cons. It's probably the one you've been using.
How do I know it's probably the one you've been using because that's kind of been the default. Zoom has a lot of advantages and some serious disadvantages as well. So we'll talk a little bit about those, but the number one problem that we've had with Zoom over, frankly, the years has been security and lies.
Did you know that Zoom has misrepresented so many times about their ability to encrypt what they're doing and where they're routing? It is been,
[00:01:00] it's just been crazy what these guys have been up to. It is not end-to-end encrypted. Let's just start with that, which means that anybody who is potentially in the middle which is by the way, Zoom itself. Is somebody who can listen in on the conversation. Now, remember what I said about Zoom and their developers, many of them. At least I think it might be most of them, they're in China. We had a big story that I don't think I ever really talked about on the radio here, but it had to do with China and Zoom routing people's phone calls to China. Which was absolutely a huge thing, then Zoom had excuses for it. Well, you know, we have data centers all over the world. We try and run them back and forth. Oh, okay. Yeah, exactly. I absolutely get it. There are articles online, have a look at the intercept, for instance,
[00:02:00] they are generating their encryption keys in China for Zoom.
That's absolutely incredible. Zoom has also just in the last week or so been exposed. They have been cutting off some of the Zoom user's meetings because China objected. China didn't want some of these people who were talking about China and some of the bad things China has been doing. In reality, we haven't been talking about these anywhere near enough here in the United States, but Zoom has capitulated to the Chinese government, the socialists over there.
It's absolutely amazing what has it been going on? They're using some old versions of encryption that have been easily hacked. They've got the worst type of AES keys out there. The researchers have confirmed that they're
[00:03:00] using 128-bit keys for their communications.
In other words, even the encryption that they have, which is extremely limited, is extremely poor. It's just amazing. They keep saying, Oh, you know, we're fixing it. Or we have fixed it. They keep getting caught in what the media has been calling lies again and again. These encryption keys in China and routing the data through China and capitulating to what China wants them to do.
I don't know about you, but to me, that's a very, very big concern, right. These guys just have not been upfront and honest with people. It's a terrible situation. So Zoom is something I absolutely would never. Use for anything that really mattered. So if you're talking about some business process that might be confidential, if you're talking about some intellectual property things,
[00:04:00] right which is confidential business information. If you're talking about banking information if you're talking to your accountant if you're talking about anything. That could be used by hackers or the Nation States.
Anybody malicious doesn't use Zoom. Now I get it. I understand why people used it. I have used zoom and I'm probably still going to continue to use zoom for certain things.
The big advantages to zoom are Number one it's easy to use and set up and manage. It is quite straightforward. Now. Unfortunately, unlike WebEx teams, you do have to install a client. You have to install software on your computer. Guess what? That's another area. Zoom has been caught doing some things that are very, very poor practices from a programming standpoint and the nefarious if you want to look at this through a slightly different lens when it comes to Mac computers, they were installing a whole server
[00:05:00] on your computer that allowed remote access to pretty much everything on your computer. Can you believe these guys? OK, it's really crazy, but you know, zoom, you don't need IT team to manage it.
You don't need to have somebody like me come in and get everything set up, help explain it to you. Cause there are not very many functions in it. There are not very many features. It's not like a WebEx team, the room, and spaces that can all be tied into other devices and get set up on your mobile devices.
Maybe like I have sitting right here, I have this amazing WebEx teams displayed. It's just absolutely amazing. We were using it yesterday for a meeting and it has a built-in whiteboard and I'm just drawing on this screen. It's it is really quite impressive, but. You don't need any of that with Zoom.
And that's why so many people went on and used it. And frankly, they've more than doubled in size over the last six months or so.
[00:06:00] It's been huge. So with Zoom, you can get up to a hundred participants standard on your Zoom account. You can have a quick one on one meeting, which is handy. You have your own Zoom room.
In fact, the Zoom rooms have been where most of the Zoom bombing has been going on, where people drop in and stick pornography in the middle of your meeting. It's been happening for schools. It's been happening for everybody. Who's been using them by the way. If you're a school, don't use Zoom, get something good.
Get again, WebEx teams, Hey, listen, we sell it. We use it. We do that because we love it. Believe me. It's just phenomenal.
You can have your meetings on Zoom phone webinars, chats on Zoom, which is really kind of handy. They do also have the ability to with browsers attend some of the meetings. They have conference rooms and mobile devices.
I really like conference rooms. That's what I used to
[00:07:00] run the FBI's InfraGard webinars for a couple of years. It works pretty darn well for that sort of stuff. Zoom also has some of these all in one in appliances, which makes it even simpler to deploy, manage, and scale the room experience.
But again, Those all in one appliance have been found to be anything but secure. It's just crazy. These guys, they just don't get it. They either don't know anything about security or they just don't care about it. Right.
So these all in one appliance has it been shown from Zoom to be very, very insecure and it's very cheap.
It's inexpensive to do it. It does have some integrations with Google and Microsoft. You can use their app marketplaces over 200 integrations with things like Slack and PayPal and many others. In fact, that's what we did with the FBI InfraGard program. We had some that were paid, some of these
[00:08:00] meetings that were paid and that went over like a lead balloon.
Let me tell you. that was kind of one of the final straws when I left doing that for the FBI InfraGard program, because so much of this information, I'm trying to get it outright. Why should people have to pay for some of these webinars where the presenters are, volunteers, me running the webinars for the FBI InfraGard program, our volunteers, and then they start charging people and then there, they, in a couple of cases, they actually paid behind the scenes, the people who were doing the presentations. But for the most part, they weren't getting paid. Anyway, so I don't know, maybe that's a little inside baseball. Okay.
Now, why am I still going to use Zoom? In some cases, Zoom is just what everybody knows.
It's what everybody uses. It just makes life so easy. I think I would probably continue to use it for some people. Some people have a hard time with anything new, but
[00:09:00] you know what, now that the majority of people know how to use Zoom, because they've had to, because of working from home. With the coronavirus thing, the Zoom is going to be a platform that's going to be around for quite a while.
And yeah, it's got its drawbacks as I just talked about, but the fact that it's kind of ubiquitous, everybody knows that everybody can use it. Everybody has used it. It is not going away anytime soon. So stick around if you missed any of today's show, make sure you go to Craig peterson.com. You'll find it all there as well as on your favorite podcast app and stick around.
Cause we're going to talk about my favorite collaboration system when we get back. So, stick around.
---
More stories and tech updates at:
www.craigpeterson.com
Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating:
www.craigpeterson.com/itunes
Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at:
www.twitter.com/craigpeterson
For questions, call or text:
855-385-5553