GUEST: Pat Kasch

Not very often does our host claim an episode to be one of his favorites, but this is one of Paul's top five episodes and he's joined by a returning Pat Kasch, who also favors this episode. Listen as these two guys gush over Ben, Locke, Richard and more as they talk about "The Man Behind the Curtain". (Also, check out Clock Shelves on social media for the pictures and articles discussed.)