In this episode host Erik Fleming interviews Amanda Janoo on well‑being economics — redefining success beyond GDP and designing economies that prioritize people and the planet — and Dr. Karida Brown on the history of Black education from emancipation through Brown v. Board and the ongoing fight against privatization and book bans.

The conversation explores alternatives to growth‑focused capitalism, policy lessons from global well‑being initiatives, the legacy of Black educators like Lucy Craft Laney, and why preserving public knowledge systems matters for democracy.