In this episode of The Poured Hearts Podcast, the conversation dives deep into the difference between wellness and wholeness — and how chasing health, self-improvement, and happiness can still leave us empty if we’re not whole in Christ.

Clark, Chanley, Lindsay, and Eli open up about migraines, striving, burnout, and the moment they each realized that God wasn’t asking for another plan — He was offering Himself. They talk about the tension between contentment and ambition, why “quick healing” isn’t always the best healing, and how faith and science actually meet in simple acts of praise (like clapping your hands).

It’s a vulnerable, eye-opening conversation about surrender, identity, and learning to let God define health, happiness, and wholeness.

Because sometimes the thing we’re chasing with all our strength… is already waiting for us when we stop striving.