Welcome to Wellthy Living Conversations

EP 73: DISCERNMENT AS A PRACTICE: MAKE CLEAR DECISIONS FOR LIFE AND WORK
with guest Nathalie Martinek

Nathalie Martinek, PhD traded biological research for decoding toxic relationships and workplaces. Think of her as a guide through the minefields of personal relationships and modern professional life, equipping people with the knowledge and skills to interrupt dysfunctional patterns, relate better, and restore stability.

Intro: 
We’re living in an age where information and opinions come at us from every direction, yet clarity feels harder to find than ever. Discernment helps us cut through that noise, in our relationships, decisions, and the way we interpret the world around us. It’s not about judgment or perfection; it’s about developing the inner radar that helps us know what’s true, what’s safe, and what’s aligned.

Together, Nathalie and I unpack what discernment really looks like in practice: how we recognise it, why we override it, and what it costs and gives us when we finally trust it, so you can make decisions with clarity and confidence.

We discuss:

• What discernment actually is
• Why we struggle to trust our own discernment
• How culture, social media, and information overload cloud our perception
• Nathalie’s Liberation Cycle: disrupt, extract, and release, a process that turns awareness into meaningful change
• How discernment protects energy, strengthens boundaries, and still sustains an open heart
• The cost of choosing truth over belonging and how discernment can deepen connection rather than sever it
• Practical ways to begin practising discernment in daily life

Links & resources 
Find out more about guest Narhalie Martine: https://www.drnathaliemartinek.com/
Read Nathalie’s Substack article 'How to Develop Discernment' 
Nathalie's 'Hacking Narcissism' substack: https://www.hackingnarcissism.com/

Discernment Series Reflective Reset Guides designed to help you pause, reflect, and practice discernment in real-life moments. Join mailing list to receive updates as the guides are released. 

Discover more
Explore more of my work at wellthyliving.com.au, or connect with me on Instagram, LinkedIn
or YouTube

And if you loved this episode, please share it with someone who values thoughtful, curious conversations as much as you do.

Until next time, stay curious, trust that inner voice, and remember connection is medicine.

Welcome to Wellthy Living Conversations

This episode kicks off the relaunch of the podcast with a timely and transformative exploration of accountability as a foundation for genuine connection.

I’m joined by Nathalie Martinek PhD, a relational intelligence educator who supports individuals and teams in navigating the complexities of relationships, both personally and professionally. With a grounded and insightful approach, Nathalie helps decode dysfunctional dynamics like hidden power plays, emotional avoidance, and unspoken expectations, offering practical tools to rebuild trust and co-create healthier patterns. She brings heart, clarity, and wisdom to this powerful conversation on accountability in relationships. 

We unpack what accountability really means when we remove blame and shame, and how it can instead invite ownership, trust, and emotionally mature communication in both personal and professional contexts. Together, we explore how to co-create accountability through clear agreements, the importance of naming expectations up front, and how to stay curious and grounded when challenges arise. We also reflect on the limits of apology culture, and why true accountability goes beyond saying sorry and how it’s about acknowledging impact and being willing to shift.

This conversation is both practical and honest and about how we show up for ourselves and others, how we build trust over time, and how we can meet conflict with greater intention and care. 

Themes we explore include:
• Reframing accountability as ownership, not blame
• Building trust through clear expectations and agreements
• Navigating conflict without getting defensive
• Addressing issues before they escalate
• Balancing friendship and professionalism in collaboration
• Creating space for feedback, gratitude, and emotional growth

If you value deep connection and honest conversation, this episode sets the tone for what’s to come.

It’s a rich exploration of how emotional maturity, clarity, and courageous communication lay the foundation for healthy relationships — whether at work, in friendships, or in intimate partnerships. 🎧 

LISTEN NOW if you want to deepen your understanding of what it truly means to be accountable in relationships and how to foster trust without shame.

What’s your biggest insight or takeaway? Leave a comment and let us know.

You can find all 'Wellthy living conversations' on Spotify, iTunes, YouTube, iheart radio, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

If you enjoy this conversation, please leave a review, share the episode with your network, and subscribe to the Wellthy Living Conversations podcast so you don’t miss future episodes with inspiring guests whose stories, perspectives, and wisdom support you to live and lead with more intention and connection.

Connect with Nathalie Martinek:
• Substack
• LinkedIn

I’m Lisa, a facilitator and coach for life, leadership, and workplace wellbeing.
To learn more about my work, visit www.wellthyliving.com.au or connect with me on your favourite social media platforms.

Until next time remember Connection is Medicine.

Welcome to Wellthy Living conversation.

In this epsiode I have an enriching conversation with Lucy Mayes and Ingrid Gaiotto.

Lucy: A mother with two young adult children who is transitioning into a new phase of life. She has a background in law but left her law career due to a values disconnect and pursued a career in workplace wellbeing, with a particular focus on healthcare. Lucy has also delved into spiritual personal development work and aims to share her knowledge and experience as she gains more freedom.

Ingrid: With a background in Italian heritage and a passion for the arts, hospitality, and travel, has embarked on various ventures, including running a cafe and now a tour operations company. She maintains a deep connection to her Italian roots and channels her skills and passions into creating businesses aligned with her values.

Lucy and Ingrid have joined forces for this special episode to discuss their shared passion for personal development, authenticity, and making a positive impact in the world.They also excitedly reveal an upcoming Italy retreat that they are partnering on, promising a transformative and enriching experience for participants.

In this conversation we explored the following themes:

Personal Development and Authenticity: Lucy and Ingrid share pivotal moments in their lives that have shaped their perspectives and actions. They highlight the importance of pursuing desires and leveraging opportunities to live authentically.

Impact of Fear: The conversation delves into the impact of fear on one's actions and choices, emphasizing the need to overcome it with courageous action to lead a fulfilling life.

Closing the Gap:
The conversation explores the challenge of bridging the gap between ideal values and real-life actions.Both guests highlight the importance of authenticity and generosity and advocate for a balanced approach between rational and intuitive thinking.

Balancing Thinking Styles:
Lucy discusses the balance between the right and left sides of human thinking and the need to find a bridge between them. She mentions the over-quantification of life in modern society and how genuine quality often emerges from unmeasurable experiences.

Definition of Success:
The episode concludes with a focus on the definition of success, featuring a quote from Maya Angelou about self-liking and authenticity in one's actions.

Enough is enough:
The conversation ends with a reference to Lucy's recent TED Talk, where she introduces the concept of taking oneself and others by the hand and boldly declaring "enough is enough."
This concept challenges the prevailing cultural narrative that constantly tells individuals they are not enough, urging a shift toward authenticity and self-acceptance.


LISTEN NOW to explore the rich insights shared by Lucy and Ingrid, and discover how their experiences and wisdom can inspire you to live authentically and aligned with your values.

Lucy's Insights:
- Lucy discusses the concept of purpose, noting how it has been commercialized and can create a constant sense of striving and inadequacy.
- She emphasizes the importance of personal self-responsibility and highlights the role of systemic changes in creating more humane workplaces.

Ingrid's Insights:
- Ingrid stresses the significance of identifying one's values and being authentic.
- She believes that if everyone were their full authentic selves, the world would operate more effectively and empathetically.


Check out the details of their exciting partnership for the upcoming Italy retreat, promising a profound and life-changing experience


I hope this enjoyed this epiosde and it inpires you to live a well, connected and meaningful life both personally and professionally.

What’s your biggest insight or takeaway, leave a comment and let us know.


All episodes can be found HERE or on Spotify, iTunes, Youtube, or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

To listen to a previous ocnversation I had with Lucy : Wellthy Living Conversations EP 9:Reclaiming hope, heart and healing

Please leave a review and share the episode with your network and consider subscribing to the Wellthy Living Conversations podcast on iTunes and Youtube so you can listen to more conversations with wonderful humans whose stories, knowledge, actionable ideas and wisdom can help you to live a meaningful, connected and well life, both personally and professionally.

I’m Lisa, a facilitator and coach for life, leadership and workplace welbeing. To find out more about my services you can visit my website www.wellthyliving.com.au or connect with me on all social media channels.

Welcome to Wellthy Living Conversation episode 71

In this episode I’m speaking a very special woman and someone I feel blessed to call a friend, Nathalie Brewer.

Nathalie is a true survivor who has faced numerous cancer diagnosis and emerged stronger every time. Nathalie’s journey is one of resilience, and embracing life's uncertainties while playing the 'long game' with cancer. Over the past seven years, she has experienced remission multiple times, always hopeful that the cancer had completely gone. Her story is one of such strength and grace and an inspiring testament to the power of the human spirit and the profound meaning that can be found in life's most challenging moments.

For regular listeners you may remember an a conversation I had with Nathalie in July 2018 were we discussed Nathalies cancer journey from diagnosis to thriving. If you haven’t listened I highly recommend you do, it’s EP 12: Occupy your body: One womans cancer diagnosis and her journey to thriving

In this epiosde Nathalie caught us up on whats been happening in her life, particularly in regards to her cancer journey, since July 2018.
Spoiler alert: Her cancer came back, this time to her lungs....you'll have to listen to find out the details, the impact and the outcome.

We discussed:

• Nathalie's most significant turning points that shaped her experience
• Navigating the challenges and uncertainties of her journey
• How the power of presense was a key healing tool
• The power of mindset and the role that her "attitudinal" muscle played in her healing
• The importance of discipline and devotion
• Juggling personal well-being and professional growth and motherhood
• Maintaining meaningful connections with others, while facing the ups and downs of cancer
• Strategies employed to bounce back from setbacks
• Embracing the Beauty of Life and Death

and more....

Themes included: Faith, trust, surrender, acceptance, self forgiveness, discipline, curiosity, connection, love.


I hope this epiosde and it inpires you to live a well, connected and meaningful life both personally and professionally.

What’s your biggest insight or takeaway from todays conversation.
Leave a comment and let us know.


All episodes can be found HERE or on Spotify, iTunes, Youtube, or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

To listen to my intial conversation with Nathalie go to EP 12: Occupy your body: One womans cancer diagnosis and her journey to thriving

Please leave a review and share the episode with your network and consider subscribing to the Wellthy Living Conversations podcast on iTunes and Youtube so you can listen to more conversations with wonderful humans whose stories, knowledge, actionable ideas and wisdom can help you to live a meaningful, connected and well life, both personally and professionally.

I’m Lisa, a facilitator and coach for life, leadership and workplace welbeing. To find out more about my services you can visit my website www.wellthyliving.com.au or connect with me on all social media channels.


Until next time remember connection is medicine.

Welcome to Wellthy Living Conversation episode 70 with guest Joe Hart.

Joe is a psychologist and executive coach and author of “True Perspective”. After graduating with a Master of Organisational Psychology, Joe spent 7 years working for Gallup, a global leader in engagement and strengths based development. He became a strengths based coach, engagement expert and worked with senior leaders all over Asia. He then went on to spend a few years working for Chandler Macleod leading the Client Services team, running culture change programs, executive coaching, and psychometric assessment for selection and development. Most recently he was the culture lead and internal executive coach supporting people at all levels of seniority.

Intro:
"In a world where screens dominate our interactions, where emojis replace genuine expressions, and where instant messaging supersedes face-to-face connections, it has become more crucial than ever to recognize the power and significance of dialogue. Open and honest conversations are the lifeblood of human connection, fostering understanding, empathy, and the exchange of ideas. But how we can cultivate an environment that encourages genuine and meaningful conversations and why does matter? "

In this episode, we explore the barriers that hinder honesty and vulnerability and discover how we can cultivate an environment that encourages genuine and meaningful conversations.

So, if you're curious about the impact of honest conversations, I hope enjoy this one and that it fosters a deeper appreciation for the art of open and honest conversations.


We discussed:

• What it means to be a good conversationist and what makes a good conversation
• Leading with truth - what that actually means
• The importance of clarity, expectations, and agreements
• The importance of knowing your values and needs
• How to have the courage and confidence, to be honest with yourself and others
• Fears and insecurities and common barriers that often hold us back
• Being misunderstood - what happens, what do most people do in this situation?
• Psychological safety - How to Create safe spaces for open and honest conversations, understanding the importance of trust, active listening, and empathy.
• Self-awareness - masking, the cost of both masking and unmasking
• Being the victim and the benefits
• Managing emotions - the importance, tips, and tools
• Cultural differences

DISCOVER MORE:

You may also enjoy:

#66 Burnout: What's causing it?
#61 Adapting to a new era of workplace culture - conversations we need to be having
#50 Addressing our needs
#22 Communicating from a place of inner power, presence and passion
#7 Do Opinions Matter?


All episodes can be found HERE or on Spotify, iTunes, Youtube, or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

Please leave a review and share the episode with your network and consider subscribing to the Wellthy Living Conversations podcast on iTunes and Youtube so you can listen to more conversations with wonderful humans whose stories, knowledge, actionable ideas and wisdom can help you to live a meaningful, connected and well life, both personally and professionally.

To find out more about my services you can visit my website www.wellthyliving.com.au or connect with me on all social media channels.

To learn more about Joe you can visit her website - https://joehart.com.au/


Until next time remember connection is medicine.

Welcome to Wellthy Living Conversation episode 69 with guest Nathalie Martinek.

Nathalie is an ex-systems biology and cancer researcher turned Narcissism Hacker, consultant and independent medical culture researcher. As a highly attuned observer Nathalie became acutely alive to the fact that toxic behaviours metastasise, just like the tumours she once studied. As a global consultant for leaders, investors and executives in healthcare, tech and related industries, she specialises in helping individuals and teams navigate professional relationships that feature narcissistic behaviours. Her clients develop skills and strategies to successfully negotiate with corporate psychopaths and prevent psychological, financial or reputational harm.

Many women struggle or have struggled with aggression and bullying by other women. Actually stats show that of the bullying cases lead by women in the workplace, 80% of those cases are woman on woman.

In this episode we explore lateral ( women on women) aggression & bullying in the workplace. What is it? How it plays out? Reasons it happens? How to recognise it’s happening? Why some women ( and men) deny it’s existence, why it even matters? and whether we can stop it, if so how?

This topic really challenges myths about women and sisterhood, it's a big, insightful and possibly confronting conversation.

0:00 - 3:40 - Intro
5:10 - Main themes that emerged when women shared their eperiences with Nathalie
9:45 - Role men play in stoking the fire
12:20 - What's the catayst?
16:00 - Self awareness, the difficulty in becoming more self aware and why blaming is easier
18:40 - Impact of social programming and role of "authority"
22:20 - Assimilation and masking of feminine leadership qualities
23:30 - Instituations - who established them in the forst place
24:30 - Women exiting leadership roles
25:15 - What the cost on a womens wellbeing if she chooses to continue to climb the ranks or remian in leadership roles
30.05 - 49:00 - Denial
49:00 - wellness in unwell workplaces is often a fantsasy
56:00 - Importance of building healthy relationships and relating dynamics
58:00-Barrier sof trusting relationships
1:01:00 - Risks for instiutions to show accountability
1:03:00 - Example: lateral agression in Nursing, Rite of passage and initiation process
1:05:00 - Personal accountability, changing own behaviour, boundaries, self awareness
1:07:00 - Insecutiry at the root of bullying
1:08:55 - What can be done, practical suggestions and tools
1:19:09 - Summary and conclusion

I hope you enjoy our conversation as much as we did. We would love your feedback- What’s your biggest insight or takeaway ...leave a comment and let us know.

Please leave a review and share the episode with your network and consider subscribing to the Wellthy Living conversations podcast on iTunes and Youtube so you can listen to more conversations with wonderful humans who’s stories, knowledge, actionable ideas and wisdom can help you to live a meaningful, connected and well life, both personally and professionally.


DISCOVER MORE:

Additonal relevant Wellthy Living conversations with Natahlie

#50 Addressing our needs
#66 Burnout
#15 Embracing the ego


All episodes can be found on Spotify, itunes, Youtube or whereever you listen to your podcasts.

To find out more about my services you can visit my website www.wellthyliving.com.au or connect with me on all social media channels.

To learn more about Nathalie you can visit her website - drnataliemartinek.com or subscribe her incredible Hacking Narcissism publication on Substack.


Until next time remember connection is medicine.

Welcome to Wellthy Living Conversation episode 68 with special guest Amy Loughren (the real nurse behind the Netflix movie 'The GoodNurse'.)

Amy worked for many years as an overloaded trauma/ICU/ER nurse but in 2003 her life path changed. In this very authentic, open conversation Amy shares her story of unknowingly befriending a serial killer - Charles Cullen in 2001 and her intense journey in helping detectives put him in jail. Amy generously took me through the deep layers of her personal quest in self-discovery this very unique experience took her on.

The conversation was deep and full of thought provoking insights. We talked about friendship, family, trauma, betrayal, denial, boundaries, compassion, accountability, aligning to values, a bigger purpose, breaking intergenerational healing, and more.

There were tangents and that uncovered lots of takeaways.

Normal people can do extraordinary things is one takeaway that Amy would like you to walk away with.

I hope you enjoy our conversation as much as we did. We would love your feedback- What’s your biggest insight or takeaway ...leave a comment and let us know.

Please leave a review and share the episode with your network and consider subscribing to the Wellthy Living conversations podcast on iTunes and Youtube so you can listen to more conversations with wonderful humans who’s stories, knowledge, actionable ideas and wisdom can help you to live a meaningful, connected and well life, both personally and professionally.

To find out more about my services you can visit my website www.wellthyliving.com.au or connect with me on all social media channels.

For info on Amy, follow her on Instagram - Amy the Good Nurse.


Until next time remember connection is medicine.

Welcome to Wellthy Living Conversations episode 67 with guest Jimi Hunt.

(N.B - we experienced a couple of connection issues that affected the sound quality in parts but it's mostly fine)

Talking about Mental health and mental illness is commonplace these days. They are on the agenda in schools, workplaces, government organisations, community groups, media, and across all social media networks. This is a great step forward in mental health awareness and de-stigmatising mental illness but I wonder how much real-life courageous action people are taking to live a happier, more meaningful, and connected life.

My guest today - Jimi Hunt is someone who takes courageous and some may even say outrageous action to live his best life and in turn has made it his mission to help people be happier and healthier, by making himself happier and healthier, he refers to it as Moving people up the Mental fitness continuum to become mentally fitter.

Jimi is known for his Guinness World Record for building the world's longest waterslide and for flowing down the longest river in New Zealand on a lilo.

In the episode we discussed:

-The difference between mental health and mental fitness

-Why the mental health stats are as they are

-The role society plays in our mental health and the mental illness epidemic

-Where the focus needs to be to change the stats

-The mental fitness continuum and some simple daily steps to move up it

-The importance of radical ownership and personal responsibility

-The role connection plays in mental health and mental fitness

-The importance of groups or accountability partners in order to improve mental wellbeing

-How do we get and stay motivated?

-The importance of role modeling as a way to teach

-The effectiveness of a peer-to-peer model in creating a ripple effect


There were so many great takeaways from this episode. Here are five:

1. There's no point in collecting a bunch of great information if we don't do anything with it
2. Consistency is key - take small steps each day
3. The greater the inequity in society the higher the rate of mental illness
4. Content and hang out with people who have done the thing you want to do
5. The greatest motivator is progress

If you are keen to start improving your mental fitness sign up to Jimi's FREE 'Basic Reset Program' which you can join through his website https://www.jimihunt.com/

If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please leave a comment, or a review, share it with your friends and subscribe to the Wellthy Living conversations podcast on iTunes, Spotify, and the Wellthy Living youtube channel, so you can listen to more conversations with wonderful humans whose stories, knowledge, actionable ideas, and wisdom can help you to live a meaningful, connected and well life, both personally and professionally.

If you are keen to improve your mental health and fitness you might also benefit from epsiodes:

#57 There's a science to laughter - no joke!
#50 Addressing our needs
#49 The magical power of persistence
#26 Strike up a Chat


I’m Lisa, I’m an integrated life, clarity, leadership, and wellbeing coach, a workplace wellbeing consultant, and a professional conversation facilitator.

To find out more about my services you can visit my website www.wellthyliving.com.au or connect with me on all social media channels.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisaentwisle/
https://www.instagram.com/wellthy.living/
https://www.facebook.com/welllthyliving/


Until next time, remember, CONNECTION IS MEDICINE.

Welcome to Wellthy Living conversations episode 66.

“You can't heal in a workplace, situation or institution that continues to harm you.“ - Nathalie Martinek

With this in mind in this episode, we are going to take a deep dive into burnout and bring awareness to things that contribute to workplace toxicity that rarely get talked about in workplace wellbeing conversations. What it looks like, sounds like, feels like, as well as the wellness initiatives that try to cover up the core systemic problems. There’s much more to the burnout conversation than needs to be addressed and we do our best to highlight some in this episode.

My guest, Nathalie Martinek is a relationship coach and consultant for leaders and executives in healthcare and related industries, globally.
She helps leaders and executives navigate professional and personal relationships with narcissistic people using strategic communication and relational skills while managing risks to their reputation and career progression.

The episode begins by defining burnout in two different ways and goes on to get more specific with the second, less commonly talked about definition.

In this episode, we do not shy away from anything and exposure how buzzwords are often thrown around without considering their true meaning and are often used to create new industries.

We look at imposter syndrome versus forced assimilation, moral distress/injury, and how some wellness initiatives such as resilience programs are used to gaslight employees and avoid addressing broken dehumanising systems.

This episode is jam packed with thought-provoking insights.


If you’ve enjoyed, please leave a comment, or a review, share it with your friends, and subscribe to the Wellthy Living conversations podcast on iTunes, Spotify, and the Wellthy Living youtube channel, so you can listen to more conversations with wonderful humans whose stories, knowledge, actionable ideas, and wisdom can help you to live a meaningful, connected and well life, both personally and professionally.

To connect with Natahlie:
https://www.drnathaliemartinek.com
https://twitter.com/NatsforDocs
https://www.instagram.com/the.narcissism.hacker/
https://nathaliemartinekphd.substack.com/

If you are interested in company culture and organisational wellbeing conversations you may also enjoy the following Wellthy Living conversations:

#65 Creativity to cultivate connected and joy-filled organisations
#64 Menopause: a workplace opportunity
#61 Adapting to a new era of workplace culture - conversations we need to be having
#56 What's the impact of workspace on the wellbeing of a business & its people?
#8: Transforming the culture of healthcare


I’m Lisa, I’m an integrated life, clarity, leadership, and wellbeing coach, a workplace wellbeing consultant, and a professional conversation facilitator.

To find out more about my services you can visit my website www.wellthyliving.com.au or connect with me on all social media channels.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisaentwisle/
https://www.instagram.com/wellthy.living/
https://www.facebook.com/welllthyliving/


Until next time, remember, CONNECTION IS MEDICINE.

Welcome to Wellthy Living conversations episode 65.

With some much change over the last few years, do you feel like your mojo has gone on holiday without you - you know, that magical feeling that comes from being joyful and feeling connected, from living with purpose and meaning and having a creative flow?

In this episode guest, an authority on creativity, culture, and the human future of work,
Mykel Dixon, highlights that your creative, playful spark always resides within you, waiting for you to reconnect with it so you can thrive both personally and professionally.

Creativity helps inspire a culture of connection, growth, and employee engagement. It's time to reimagine leadership. In this conversation, I chat with Mykel about what keeps people and organisations from fully embracing a new more creative, and human-centred way of leading and why it matters.

We also explore the metaphoric relationship and life dualities between creative arts (in Mykel's case, as a Jazz musician) and business success. We discuss character traits and transferrable skills learned through creative practice that enhance courage, confidence, connection, and compassion.

To connect with Mykel: https://www.mykeldixon.com/


If you’ve enjoyed this episode please leave a comment, or a review, share it with your friends, and subscribe to the Wellthy Living conversations podcast on iTunes, Spotify, and the Wellthy Living youtube channel, so you can listen to more conversations with wonderful humans whose stories, knowledge, actionable ideas, and wisdom can help you to live a meaningful, connected and well life, both personally and professionally.

I’m Lisa, I’m an integrated life, clarity, leadership, and wellbeing coach, a workplace wellbeing consultant, and a professional conversation facilitator.

To find out more about my services you can visit my website www.wellthyliving.com.au or connect with me on all social media channels.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisaentwisle/
https://www.instagram.com/wellthy.living/
https://www.facebook.com/welllthyliving/


Until next time, remember, CONNECTION IS MEDICINE.