Join Sarah, Tef and Eliza Fisher of Pivot or Panic as they dive HEADfirst into this mouthwatering conversation.

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Hosts:

Sarah Jo Alò & Teflon Spliff

Guest: Eliza Fisher (@eliza_e_fisher // pivotorpanic.com)

Producer: Sarah Jo Alò

Sound Mixer: Randy Sinclair (@randychapo//⁠randysaudio.com⁠)

Sound Editor: Tiffani Blackmond