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"We're creating alien intelligence and need to act now" The morality and legality of AI, with Prof David Gunkel


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Whose responsibility is it if an AI goes haywire and causes damage to a human? And how should we think about their rights, responsibilities, and morality? These are serious questions we're going to have to grapple with far more often in the future. Prof David Gunkel, this week's guest, argues we need to be thinking about it now. In this conversation, we cover:


00:00 - Intro

01:45 - Defining a person and defining a thing

02:45 - Blurring the lines with robots

05:15 - Anthropomorphisaton

07:00 - AI friends and conscious minds

09:30 - Talking to machines and AI girlfriends

12:00 - Marc Andreesen, technological things & techno-optimism

15:30 - Human treatment of animals

18:00 - AIs taking decisions in the real world

19:30 - Talking about robots rather than AIs

21:30 - Cloud-based AI, LLMs, and AIs falling in love with each other

25:30 - Chinese, European, and American approaches to regulating AI

27:30 - AI risk and doomerism

29:30 - Open source AI, regulatory capture, and ethics-washing

32:30 - Artificial Superintelligence

34:30 - Doomers creating an emergency

35:30 - How to legislate robots and AI

41:30 - The future and the responsibilities of AIs

44:30 - Instrumental goals, recommendations algorithms and ultimate responsibility

50:30 - Unwittingly heralding the downfall of civilization

52:30 - Sam Altman and the smith exponential of technology


If you're interested in reading more, the book we discuss can be downloaded here: https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-monograph/5641/Person-Thing-RobotA-Moral-and-Legal-Ontology-for

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Complete Tech Heads with Tom EdwardsBy Tom Edwards