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"Does anyone else feel like the security field is attracting a lot of low-quality people and hurting our reputation," asked a redditor on the cybersecurity subreddit who remembers a time when security personnel were seen as highly experienced technologists. But now they believe people view cybersecurity as an easy tech job to break into for easy money.

This week’s episode is hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis (@csoandy), operating partner, YL Ventures. Our guest is Stephen Cicirelli, CISO, American Bureau of Shipping.

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In this episode:

• Does anyone else feel like the security field is attracting a lot of low-quality people and hurting our reputation?
• Do people view cybersecurity as an easy tech job to break into for easy money?
• With all this talk of needing more cyber talent, are we attracting quality or just quantity?