This episode features return guest Wes Granberg-Michaelson. A prolific author and former General Secretary of the Reformed Church in America (1994-2011), Wes' books are celebrated across the world. Our conversation focuses on Wes' recently published book, Without Oars: Casting Off into a Life of Pilgrimage.  His numerous volumes can be found at his Amazon page.

Thanks to Sara Renner (listen to her interview here!) for allowing us to use "Altogether Beautiful," the title track on her new album, which can be purchased at the following link:

https://sararenner.bandcamp.com/

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