Bethany Ayers, CEO of Metomic, has scaled businesses from the inside - as COO, CRO, and now CEO - and she has a very clear view of what founders get wrong when they think they need to hand the keys over. The insight she shares here will make most founders rethink the decision they're about to make.

What does an experienced operator see that a founder typically can't? Bethany and James cover the vanity activities that distract from fundamentals, why senior hires fail more often than you'd expect, and the single question you have to answer before you bring anyone into the C-suite. The episode ends with a practical framework for choosing between a COO and a CEO  and it starts with your shit list.

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