This communication skills podcast exists for one reason: to help you close the gap between what you mean and what people actually hear.

Conversations That Count is hosted by David Shaft, a Presidents Club Banker, director, and Detroit native who has spent years studying what separates the professionals who get overlooked from the ones who command every room they walk into. The answer is always communication. Every Tuesday and Thursday, David sits down with artists, entrepreneurs, executives, and culture makers to examine the one move that changed everything for them.

Whether you are a founder building a brand on Woodward, an executive leading a team through change, or a creative who needs the world to finally pay attention, this show gives you something actionable every single episode.

What you will get from Conversations That Count:

Real conversations with real leaders about how they communicate their value, their vision, and their story

Tactical takeaways at the end of every episode called the Try This Tomorrow challenge, so you can apply what you learn immediately

A front row seat to the communication strategies behind some of the most compelling careers and businesses being built today

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/RjdJ9pyguA0 Website: https://ctcpodcast.media

New episodes every Tuesday and Thursday. Follow on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.

Grab the free Communication Playbook: https://ctcpodcast.media/free-playbook