In this week's What Divides Us, Todd argues that the U.S. system is at it's core a liberty based system, and that a liberty based system requires small government, with a devotion to protecting the people's protections from government rather than a government that is growing and determined to take more power in the relationship by undermining those protections.

Av Harris argues the other side, that small government was all well and good once upon a time, but that wonderful big government programs from the FDR era and the LBJ era were essential developments, representing an evolution of our system to something better.

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