At the end of his conversation with Todd last week recapping the COVID shutdowns, economist Jeffrey Tucker sounded an alarm of optimism. Where was Tucker, who writes for Real Clear Markets, finding this ray of hope amidst all the damage done by government overreaction and the politics of the science expressed by the Public Health Power Elite? We brought him back this week to learn more.

But Jeffrey again teases our next conversation by noting that he will prep for it by rereading Adam Smith's "Theory of Moral Sentiments," because it speaks so powerfully to the moment we find ourselves in.