Epictetus, Carl Jung, and Laozi debate whether genuine service is possible—and if so, what it actually requires. Their disagreement reveals a hard truth: most helping is really about the helper's needs, wounds, or discomfort, and the only way to serve someone truly is to stop pretending otherwise and look honestly at what you're actually after. You'll leave this episode with a simple but unsettling practice: noticing what you hope to get from helping, so the gap between your agenda and another person's real need finally starts to close.

📖 Pay Attention by C. Trebue — available on Amazon: 

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