What does it mean to order our loves rightly? In this insightful conversation, Tom Sarrouf is joined by Dr. Chad Pecknold, a theologian and professor at The Catholic University of America, to explore ordo amoris—the proper ordering of love—and its profound relevance for the Catholic Church today. They dive into the roots of this concept, tracing its development through the works of Augustine and Aquinas, and discuss how disordered love impacts both individual lives and the broader culture. The conversation also touches on the crucial role the Church plays in restoring moral and social order, and why the conservative vision depends on rightly ordered affections.