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What does it really take for us to get to liberation?  Is that really even what you're in this work for?  In this episode, our hosts discuss where to start and how to sustain real work toward tangible change in an organization, community or space where folx are working to upend oppression and realize equity.  It's tough, uneasy work, and there are lots of directions the path to liberation can take.  What's yours?

This conversation is split into two parts so be sure to check for both episodes! 

*CAUTION* 
The audio might be a bit distracting because our audio engineer is trying things out.  If you're a first time listener, try other episodes - the audio isn't always like this.  If you're a long time listener, your palatability is already such that you hear the message through it all!

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