Democratic voters have been drawn to Senator Kamala Harris as a messenger, even though her message remains a work in progress. Ahead of her second presidential debate appearance, we consider what the candidate says she believes. Guest: Alexander Burns, who covers national politics for The New York Times, spoke with Ms. Harris. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

Background reading:

• Ms. Harris says she wants relevant policy, not “a beautiful sonnet.” Is that enough for voters?
• Read a transcript of our reporter’s conversation with Ms. Harris.

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