Many people are asking how much support President Biden really has within the Democratic Party...and if he's really the right candidate to take on Republicans in 2024. The polls have been showing plenty of interest in a third party candidate, but when it comes to Dems, some watchers say that Biden is only the Democratic nominee by default. Could California Governor Gavin Newsom swoop in? Sure, he could...but the bigger question is: is he even interested in the job? Kellie examines these questions with Democratic strategist Michael Starr Hopkins, who served on the campaigns of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John Delaney and Svante Myrick, the president of People For the American Way.

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