In this episode, Sawtooth Frank and Stomping Jen discuss the things that get us out of our heads, and Sawtooth realizes that his "monkey mind" is a real monkey on his back.

Jen and sawtooth also discuss some other stuff, including how the Starbucks app was not the antisocial-enabling technology Sawtooth was hoping for, and killer trees.

This week's pod-beers were from Night Shift Brewing.