As Australia closes its embassy in the Afghan capital Kabul, Kulja and Dylan get on the line with Walkley Award winning writer and broadcaster Jeff Sparrow to discuss Australia’s military legacy in Afghanistan and what it says about conduct in future conflicts. Then, human rights lawyer and Executive Director of Refugee Legal, David Manne, calls in to break down what’s happening with the Murugappan family and discuss Australia's asylum seeker regime. And Karen Ellis, co-founder of Mend It, Australia, a group advocating the right to repair gadgets and appliances, talks about the Productivity Commission’s plan to recommend that manufacturers should provide consumers and repairers access to spare parts.