Kate is crushing on Tara Brach's book Radical Acceptance.

Kyle goes on a tangent to talk about Net Promoter Scores (again) and Kate makes a face (12:40) as she pretends he's on topic.

Athletes have a special kind of mental toughness. Kate's approach to mental toughness is to surround herself with the right coaches and mentors, just like the world's best athletes. (16:30)

Kyle's approach (18:40) is to surround himself with people who are on the same path and a similar stage. It's a little different than Kate's.

"If you're losing the game and celebrating a dunk, you have the wrong mindset." ~ Kyle Sexton

According to Kate, the Five Second Rule (MelRobbins.com) isn't about how long you have to eat the cookie you just dropped on the floor. It's a count-down to "start doing it."

"Taking action leads to more action." ~ Kate Volman

Kyle describes the "painted picture" described by Cameron Herold in his new book Vivid Vision.

"Elephants are why people show up." (40:30) Kyle tries to explain his bizarre metaphor about business and marketing. It probably has nothing to do with mental toughness.