In this special catch-up episode, Chalin and Stephen step away from the usual format to share what they’ve been working on behind the scenes.

They talk candidly about the latest momentum at Propel, what they’ve learned building in public, and Stephen’s newest project: Catalyst — why it exists, what problem it’s solving, and what’s coming next. It’s a fast, honest update on the work, the challenges, and the vision driving everything forward.

(Created with Soundly AI and Propel.)