This conversation explores what happens when high performers lose their connection to play, and why it matters more than most realize.

Michael sits down with Peter Williamson to unpack how games, space, and human behavior intersect in leadership, learning, and life.

Key themes discussed:

• The psychological cost of perfectionism
• Why play improves decision-making and creativity
• How physical and social environments shape behavior
• The role of experiential learning in leadership
• Reconnecting with curiosity in high-pressure environments

Who this is for:

• Founders feeling stuck, rigid, or burned out
• Leaders looking to unlock better team dynamics
• Anyone craving more creativity and energy in their work

Why it’s worth listening:

This episode reframes play as a strategic advantage, not a distraction and offers a practical way to reconnect with clarity, energy, and better thinking.