So, what if you don't want kids? Or maybe you’re leaning more towards not wanting to have kids but you’re worried about the stigma that surrounds the decision? You’re worried about changing your mind later in life? You're worried about what your family will say?

It’s almost a scary prospect, isn’t it? Deciding not to have kids feels a bit like you’re zigging while maybe other people around you are zagging. 

Today we’re speaking to Australian journalist & author - Tory Shepherd. 

Her book ‘On Freedom’ explores how women's freedom to choose motherhood is reshaping their own lives as well as society.

You can buy a copy of On Freedom here.

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