This week on Psyber Conversations, we take a break from Star Wars for a special episode and tackle a surprisingly heated pop culture debate. What actually makes a Christmas movie a Christmas movie?

Josh is joined by longtime friend Bob to break down the real criteria. Is it just a movie that takes place during the holidays, or does Christmas actually have to drive the story?

That question leads to a spirited discussion about classics and controversies including Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Batman Returns, Gremlins, Iron Man 3, Edward Scissorhands, and more. We also dig into one of the biggest holiday staples of all time and ask a question that might make some people very uncomfortable. Is It’s a Wonderful Life even a Christmas movie?

Along the way the conversation dives into family traditions, weird movie classifications, and the strange ways certain films become holiday viewing even when they probably were never meant to be.

If you’ve ever argued about whether Die Hard belongs in the Christmas movie category, this episode is definitely for you.