Today Emma Hilling is a dedicated PANDAS volunteer and mum of two enjoying the chaos of birthday parties and toddler milestones. But when her second child was born she experienced severe postnatal anxiety.

She speaks to Sally Bunkham about her experiences of perinatal anxiety, insomnia and recovery through the support of a Mother and Baby Unit (MBU).

Emma talks about the terrifying physical symptoms that first masked her anxiety, the loneliness of sleepless nights, and the moment she realised she needed urgent help. She takes us through her time in an MBU — the fear, the kindness, the friendships - and ultimately the hope that came from the support she found there.

Now thriving and giving back as a volunteer for PANDAS, Emma reflects on how far she’s come and offers wisdom for any parent feeling lost, anxious, or scared to reach out for help.

Trigger Warning: This podcast series may and will include, from time to time, themes of the entire spectrum of mental illness. Themes may include suicide, baby loss, self -harm, domestic violence and upsetting topics. If you urgently need help, if you're in mental health crisis, please call the Samaritans on 116 123. Or the emergency services via 111 or 999.

Please note, you should always follow your GP or health practitioner's guidance for anything medically associated from conception onwards. The PANDAS Foundation does not advise on any medication. https://pandasfoundation.org.uk

Contact PANDAS WhatsApp for support on 07903 508334 every day between 8am - 10pm

Samaritans 116 123

US: Postpartum Support International 1-800-944-4773

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