In this episode, we dive into the heart of what it truly means to follow Jesus. Too often, modern Christianity focuses on raising hands, saying a prayer, or “joining the club,” but discipleship goes far deeper. Erin and Ramonita unpack the difference between being a convert and being a disciple, explore the relational nature of spiritual growth, and challenge the idea that the Church exists to grow crowds rather than cultivate life-changing faith. They also reflect on Jesus’ model of discipleship — small, intentional, and deeply relational — and offer practical ways to live it out today.

5 Key Takeaways:

1. Discipleship is about following Jesus, not just believing in Him.
2. True spiritual growth requires relational investment — you become like who you spend time with.
3. Modern Christianity often emphasizes converts over disciples, but depth matters more than width.
4. Discipleship happens best in small, intentional communities where people can be fully known.
5. Building tables (relationships) matters more than building brands (numbers or programs).

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