In this COP30 special, Luca speaks with Paolo Destilo, climate activist representing United for Climate Justice and Debt for Climate in Belém, Brazil. Paolo shares how his journey - from Dutch-Italian student to frontline climate organizer - led him to COP30.From the sudden pavilion fire that forced thousands to evacuate, to the political tensions around the Belem Declaration on phasing out fossil fuels, Paolo gives a rare insider perspective on what’s really happening at COP30. We dive into Brazil’s complex role as host, the struggle of Indigenous communities who had to storm the venue to demand access, and the powerful People’s March that united over 35,000 people calling for climate justice and debt cancellation for the Global South.

Host of the episode: ⁠Luca P. De Cristofaro

Guest: Paolo Destilo, United for Climate Justice & Debt for Climate

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