Mike Neglia sits down with fellow elder Victor Sabbe outside Calvary Cork for a conversation about Revelation 4, heaven, and the throne room of God.

Over spice boxes on one of the hottest days of the year, Mike and Victor reflect on what John saw when he was caught up into heaven, why the throne of God is central to the vision, and how Revelation challenges some common misunderstandings about heaven and how we get there.

This conversation is part of Calvary Cork’s ongoing journey through the book of Revelation.