DISCUSSION FROM BRO. JOHN HAYES... Maybe, or rather, come to a place to embrace that lower aspect of my SELF. It just seems this "Hell" we were born into; all of the outer manifestations is nothing more than the realization of "Hell" itself. The material world deems to be the "demonic" manifestation of our beast nature. The place of survival only to die.... But is that lower nature suppose to be eradicated? I don't think so. It seems that "Demon" is indeed an aspect of who we are but it has to be realized. It's a battle of sorts to stand in that "Middle Way".