What Is It About Endings?

Quitting is a huge topic, and in this episode, Emily and Holly dive deeper into the angles they most want to talk about. Endings excite Holly and terrify Emily. Why? Holly loves destruction; is she okay? We get into ideas of success and failure and what they are; what “failure porn” is, and the glorification of failure (which doesn’t exist in recovery); how there’s so much guidance for creating and so little around walking away; what happens when you lose your purpose and your passion; do we have one magical assignment?; normalizing and valuing the groundless, hard liminal space before the “comeback;” how and why we don’t talk about death or have rituals for endings; and when our changing makes other people uncomfortable.

Intro Note:

Holly and Emily talk about their shared (and until now, secret) love of ASMR, and we also forget to define what ASMR is. ASMR stands for “autonomous sensory meridian response.” The dictionary calls it “a feeling of well-being combined with a tingling sensation in the scalp and down the back of the neck, as experienced by some people in response to a specific gentle stimulus, often a particular sound.” Mostly people just call it “tingles,” despite the word “tingles” being slightly creepy.

The intro ends, and the episode begins, at 00:06:04

Music: Michael Blumenfeld, mikebloomstudio.com

Sound engineering + edits: Adam Day

Producer: Cathleen Kisich

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