Host Jason Michael Perry sits down with

Marcus Penny, VP of Technology and

Digital Services at Bruce Bolt and founder of boutique

AI consulting firm Techabo, to dig into one of the most

talked-about — and least understood — tools in tech right now: OpenClaw.

In this episode, they unpack what OpenClaw actually is, why it feels so different from

anything we’ve seen before, and what it really means when an AI can wake up on its

own schedule, manage a team of other AIs, and take actions on your behalf — whether

you’re watching or not. Marcus brings a practitioner’s eye: real workflows,

real failures, and a clear-eyed take on where the hype ends and the genuine opportunity begins.

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