In this episode of Making Love, Eva and John explore Wisdom, the fourth and final pillar of the Embodied Leadership Journey.

Wisdom is not information, insight, or knowledge. It is what remains after experience has been lived, felt, reflected on, and integrated. Through honest conversation, Eva and John speak about wisdom as something earned through time — through cycles of desire, action, truth, and learning — rather than something that can be taught or transmitted.

They explore:

* Why wisdom lives in the body, not just the mind

* The role of time, humility, and lived experience

* Knowing when to act and when to wait

* How wisdom brings grounded presence, discernment, and integrity

* Why leadership matures through cycles, not techniques

This episode completes the four pillars of Embodied Leadership — Desire, Will, Truth, and Wisdom — revealing them as a living cycle rather than linear steps. As wisdom deepens, new desires emerge from a more integrated place, refining how we live, relate, and lead.

Wisdom, here, is not an ending — but a threshold.

To learn more about the Embodied Leadership Journey, visit:🔗 https://www.dreaminginunison.org/12-month

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