This week, Joe's looking at what Peter Dutton is trying to achieve by using the question of Gazan refugees as a political weapon. He's also joined by Larry Emdur fresh from his Gold Logie win, to take us inside what actually goes on behind-the-scenes of a Logie campaign. 

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