In this episode, we are thankful to have friend of the pod, Meagan Chevalier, MS, LMFT to talk about Prentis Hemphill's book, What it Takes to Heal. Not that we're biased or anything but Meagan is like, the therapist we all want to be our therapist??? In our conversation, we discuss when therapy meets the body (somatic therapy), getting comfortable with being afraid, and how therapy can play an important role in community and activist spaces.