<p>Chris Whipple, author of "The Gatekeepers: How the White House Chiefs of Staff Define Every Presidency" joins Chuck to talk about his interviews with 18 former Presidential Chiefs of Staff, and why John Kelly might be in trouble. </p>

Chris Whipple, author of "The Gatekeepers: How the White House Chiefs of Staff Define Every Presidency" joins Chuck to talk about his interviews with 18 former Presidential Chiefs of Staff, and why John Kelly might be in trouble.

What makes a bad Chief of Staff? Chris Whipple ranks the best and worst

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What makes a bad Chief of Staff? Chris Whipple ranks the best and worst

What makes a bad Chief of Staff? Chris Whipple ranks the best and worst