In this Logos Live episode, host Kirk E. Miller welcomes Mark Dever, longtime pastor of Capitol Hill Baptist Church in Washington, D.C., and founder of 9Marks, to discuss what makes a healthy church. Dever draws on his decades of pastoral experience and deep engagement with church history and ecclesiology to challenge modern assumptions and reframe the conversation. They discuss common misconceptions, overlooked essentials, and practical convictions needful for cultivating a faithful church community.

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Episode outline:

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:59 Introducing Dr. Mark Dever

01:53 Nine Marks Ministry Overview

02:33 Defining a Healthy Church

04:05 Challenges in Church Health

10:50 True Conversion vs. False Conversion

17:44 The Role of Church Polity

22:13 Underrated Aspects of Church Health

24:55 Closing Thoughts and Recommendations

29:23 Final Remarks and Farewell