Does DevOps make things too easy, or does it abstract away so much that it makes developers' work harder in the long run? In this episode, PJ sits down with <a href= "https://twitter.com/Dixie3Flatline" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Kat Cosgrove</a>, Developer Advocate for <a href= "https://www.pulumi.com/">Pulumi</a>, to talk about the evolution of DevOps tools, how infrastructure as code (or software) helps bring devs and ops teams closer together, and the mainstreaming of open source.

Does DevOps make things too easy, or does it abstract away so much that it makes developers' work harder in the long run? In this episode, PJ sits down with Kat Cosgrove, Developer Advocate for Pulumi, to talk about the evolution of DevOps tools, how infrastructure as code (or software) helps bring devs and ops teams closer together, and the mainstreaming of open source.

Does DevOps make things&nbsp;too easy, or does it abstract away so much that it makes developers' work harder in the long run? In this episode, PJ sits down with <a href="https://twitter.com/Dixie3Flatline" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kat Cosgrove</a>, Developer Advocate for <a href="https://www.pulumi.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pulumi</a>, to talk about the evolution of DevOps tools, how infrastructure as code (or software) helps bring devs and ops teams closer together, and the mainstreaming of open source.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;

What Matters - Episode 31 - Infrastructure as Clouds with Kat Cosgrove

What Matters is a podcast focusing on the things the Mattermost community, both internal and external, think matter the most. This includes topics around ChatOps, Open Source Software, Technology, DevOps, and everything that matters.

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What Matters - Episode 31 - Infrastructure as Clouds with Kat Cosgrove

What Matters - Episode 31 - Infrastructure as Clouds with Kat Cosgrove